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Orange amp help
January 21, 2013
3:39 pm
jimig
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I am looking for a new amp head was marshall but then I heard orange th 30 but big bucks you can get a 100 watt marshall for that money but I just play at home over kill back to orange then I saw the or 15 little better on price . Well I like classic rock some and early metal and some new metal . What orange amp head will be best th or ad  thanks for the help jimig and sorry for the bold and regular type iPad driving me nuts

January 21, 2013
7:46 pm
trushack
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If you're just playing at home, any 100 watt amp is going to be overkill.  Any 50 watt amp will probably be overkill, too.  You'll have a hard time getting the most out of an amp that's meant to be loud, unless you're going to run an attenuator with it.

I have the OR15 and it's great for home use.  It will do classic rock and classic metal, but I'm not sure about newer metal types (scooped mids, etc).  It's definitely voiced for more of a "classic" flavor.

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February 2, 2013
11:33 am
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How about bugera V22, affordable and pretty decent sound. I know there were reliability issues in the past with bugera amps, however as far as I know they were taken care of in their recent products.

You can also consider Egnater rebel and egnater tweaker, great amps.

February 2, 2013
11:48 am
Bruce
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for small affordable amps my personal favorites are the mesa mini rec for its two channels and amazing crunchy tone, i have fallen in love with my vox nighttrain 15, i also love the smooth crunch of the orange tiny terror

February 5, 2013
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so in my opinion if you want an orange, for the orange sound, then you don't want to get the OR15 or the TH series or Tiny terror etc...all the new Oranges don't really sound like the vintage ones. The OR is a tragedy given that it shares its name with the OR120 from the back in the day, but it sounds nothing like the originals.

 

I would say the newest orange amp that still maintains that orange sound is the Rocker 30 - which was discontinued in about 2008. These Rocker 30 amps come in combo (1x12 Celestion V30) or in a head format. I have one of these amps in combo form for home use, and I can still get a really good tone out of the dirty channel on low volume, or run pedals through the clean channel. 

 

Hope this helps, but like i said, it depends on what sound your going for.

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February 5, 2013
9:38 pm
Bruce
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I will disagree with the above statement. a lot of the orange amps out these days are more saturated with gain but they still sound like an orange. dial off the gain a little bit and it sounds like a vintage 70s orange amp that most players used tons of pedals in front of. thats just my opinion. I will say though amps will change in the course of 30 years. My marshall jcm2000 doesnt sound like a vintage marshall but its got a lot higher gain than most marshalls besides the jvms but its still an authentic marshall. It all depends on the style of music you listen to and your purpose you have for the amp.

February 6, 2013
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samzadgan
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Bruce said
I will disagree with the above statement. a lot of the orange amps out these days are more saturated with gain but they still sound like an orange. dial off the gain a little bit and it sounds like a vintage 70s orange amp that most players used tons of pedals in front of. thats just my opinion. I will say though amps will change in the course of 30 years. My marshall jcm2000 doesnt sound like a vintage marshall but its got a lot higher gain than most marshalls besides the jvms but its still an authentic marshall. It all depends on the style of music you listen to and your purpose you have for the amp.

It really depends on what sound your going for...but respectfully I have to disagree with you Bruce. The old orange's were made differently to the new ones, and although new Oranges do sound like Orange, they don't sound like the vintage models, and reduction in the gain wont do it. Its the actual component that are very different.  Like you say the new Oranges have a more saturated gain sound but they are also tighter sounding too, to cater for todays market.

 

When i compare the Rocker 30 or even an older OR120 to todays amps, even if i dial down the gain in new amps, they still have a very different overdriven/distorted tone. Its almost like the older amps on high gain head towards a warm and fuzz sound and the newer ones head towards a crisp OD/distortion sound.

 

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February 6, 2013
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While I wouldn't say my OR15 sounds indistinguishable from a vintage Orange (though run through the right cabinet I bet it could do a respectable impression), it certainly doesn't have what I think most people would consider a crisp OD/distortion sound.  It's got gobs of gain*, which could make it "modern," but the drive is definitely on the chewier, warmer, fuzzier side.  Even with a Telecaster.

 

* Swapping out the 12AX7s used in the preamp for 7025s or 5751s to reduce the gain is a popular pastime with these amps.

 

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