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Best guitar cables??
September 24, 2012
6:17 am
stephG
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Hello!

Just to know what's the very best of the best guitar cables??Is it the more expensive?????lol.

Low noise.....

 

Thanks

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September 24, 2012
11:15 am
andy474x
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I did some interesting research the other day, having to do with cables and pedals and effects loops. The traditional guitar "wisdom" is that true bypass pedals are the best, but I discovered that buffered bypass pedals are actually better for long cable runs. Guitar pickups are low impedance, and a low impedance signal is more affected by cable capacitance and long cables, but if you use a buffered pedal, the pedal changes the signal to a much higher impedance signal, which greatly diminishes the effect of cable capacitance and length. So basically, if you use a buffered bypass pedal (aka anything not true bypass), a cable that's not tip-top of the line won't affect your signal as much. Same goes for effects loop, cable length and capacitance has little effect because the signal is high impedance. So the cable that will have the most effect on your sound will be the one that goes from your guitar to the first buffered pedal.

Sorry for the long setup there, but my point is that you don't always have to have the super expensive cable. I don't spend the big bucks on Monster or Mogami - they're definitely good cables, but you can get good ones for less, a lot of what you pay for is the lifetime warranty with the top brands. I like the Dimarzio or Planet Waves, they're a little cheaper but still great quality, and really any decent cable with good shielding will work for a post-pedal or effects loop cable run, as described above. Just steer clear of the super cheap off brand cables. Run a really good cable from your guitar to your board and it should be fine.

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September 24, 2012
11:54 am
The Tone King
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Hi Andy - great thread, and you're 100% right.

 

This is one of my fav reads on this topic: http://www.petecornish.co.uk/c.....ypass.html

 

With that said - I think there is some gray area here.  (and I will note that 'I think')

 

Some pedals, some will say 'rob' the tone, and that 'true bypass' is better 'for that pedal'.

 

In a case where you want or dig true-bypass for a pedal, that's GREAT, b/c there are solutions out there that will add that buffer to help w/ long cable runs.  Here are a few examples:

 

http://www.tonebone.com/re-big.....ot-pb1.htm (notice the comment on 'long cable runs').

http://www.tonebone.com/tb-loopbone.htm (some things to highlight: ""The Loopbone also features Radial's unique Drag™ control pickup load correction circuit that allows the restoration of a proper 'amplifier' impedance load which is lost when you plug a guitar into effect pedals or other buffered devices."

 

And, a unit that should be familiar to you all (As I use it for my pedal shoot-outs):

http://voodoolab.com/switcher.htm

The thing I like about this switcher is that is has best of both worlds.

A 'buffered input' as well as a non-buffered input.

There are also cool sound samples at the bottom of that link, showing the difference between true bypass & buffered input.

 

Soooo, the moral of the story is that this is a GREAT topic! and there is a place for buffered input.  The question is ... 'where does it fit best in the FX chain ;-) '

 

Thanks Andy!!

September 24, 2012
1:56 pm
Bruce
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I use a bunch of cable brands. My favorites include Bullet, Lava, Monster, Mogami, Planet Waves. Right now Im using planet waves cables to hook all of my pedals together. Monsters are being used as speaker cables and effects loop cables. I use bullet from my guitar to my board, and the board to the front of the amp. Mogamis are amazing and so are lava and I dont have either anymore after a bag of my accessories was stolen awhile back. Those cables are pricey (as any good piece of gear is). I tend to buy when things are on clearance. I do not favor one of those over each other but those are the 5 i stick with. If i had to choose one to stick with Id say that the bullets are very durable, very heavy duty cable.

September 24, 2012
4:19 pm
stephG
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Very interesting!!!

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September 24, 2012
10:55 pm
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The best I have ever owned? http://www.themusicwarehouse.c.....jack-jack/

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September 29, 2012
12:05 pm
Warped
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I use a brand called "live wire". I think I pick them up at MF. Great cables at a reasonable price.

October 2, 2012
8:46 am
The Tone King
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I have some Live Wire speaker cable - no problems here.  Good cable!

October 2, 2012
10:55 am
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George L's on my pedal board and I use a Planet Waves cable with a mute switch on the connector for my instrument cable.

January 8, 2013
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Woody
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Unfortunately where I live comparing many options isn't much of a choice.  No Monster, Bullet, etc.  They have junk cables and DiMarzio.  The Dimarzio's work pretty well, but I have nothing to compare them with.  That's why I like this site and TTK's gear reviews.  It takes a lot of the "buy online and pray it works like it says" guess work out of some things.

R.I.P. Jeff Hanneman 1964-2013

January 8, 2013
3:25 am
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Unfortunately where I live comparing many options isn't much of a choice.  No Monster, Bullet, etc.  They have junk cables and DiMarzio.  The Dimarzio's work pretty well, but I have nothing to compare them with.  That's why I like this site and TTK's gear reviews.  It takes a lot of the "buy online and pray it works like it says" guess work out of some things.

R.I.P. Jeff Hanneman 1964-2013

January 8, 2013
10:06 pm
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"Guitar pickups are low impedance, and a low impedance signal is more affected by cable capacitance and long cables, but if you use a buffered pedal, the pedal changes the signal to a much higher impedance signal, which greatly diminishes the effect of cable capacitance and length."

Actually, it's the other way around..but the concept is correct.  Passive guitar pickups are typically high impedance, which is not as good at driving long cable runs.  Buffers typically work by switching the signals to low impedance.

As for cables, the best value cables I've ever used are Fender Electro-Volts.  I'm not sure if they are made anymore, but I've been using and abusing the same four cables for going on ten years and I've had similar luck with other Fender cables.

If you want to step up a bit, a company called Divine Noise makes some excellent cables.  I've definitely a difference in tone (for the better) with those.  Also, the Bullet Coils are great too.

'67 reissue Stratocaster (Lollar pickups), AVRI Thinskin Jazzmaster, '69 reissue Thinline Telecaster (Lollar and Fralin pickups), '90 Tele Plus, Rickenbacker 660-12, Ibanez RG7321 - Marshall Class 5, JMJ30, Roland JC-55, Orange OR15H - a bunch of pedals
January 8, 2013
10:52 pm
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@trushack - funny you mentioned 'abusing' Fender cables - I too have a bunch of Fender Californian cables -and they are still kicking ass. Haven't had 1 go out on me - and they are easily 10-12 years old (maybe older).

January 15, 2013
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Woody
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Thanks for the advice on the Fender Cables.  Bought a couple of the 10' "Custom Shop" cables, and they sound really good.  Thanks!

R.I.P. Jeff Hanneman 1964-2013

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